tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post3074248552132835963..comments2023-02-15T02:43:43.897-08:00Comments on Holocaust Denial is Chutzpah: Mr. Graf is FunnyHolocaust Denial is Chutzpahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09132857773003289978noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post-31062655016913703642017-09-13T19:36:11.742-07:002017-09-13T19:36:11.742-07:00Lets put it this way. We have all these confession...Lets put it this way. We have all these confessions of witchcraft and Jews confessing to poisoning wells. Do you believe them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post-89805079027828679462012-02-17T15:15:46.205-08:002012-02-17T15:15:46.205-08:00"One the other hand, Walter Dejaco from the A...<i> "One the other hand, Walter Dejaco from the Auschwitz Bauleitung, stated, in 1972, that any large room could be used for gassing human beings. "Even this hearing room". Dejaco was one of the Germans responsible for building the Leichenkeller, also called Vergasungskeller. Many Germans used their garage or barn for gassing in those days. So, whom do we want to believe - Graf or Dejaco?"</i><br /><br />If you apply Zyklon B in one apartment in an apartmentbuilding you must evacuate the whole building. <br /><br />It is still highly problematic to apply Zyklon B in the cellar while you are operating the Crematorium on the next flor.Ole Kreibergnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post-80271406556351025212012-01-31T10:57:10.096-08:002012-01-31T10:57:10.096-08:001. Göring did not know? -
Were "these things&...1. Göring did not know? -<br />Were "these things" really "kept secret" to Göring? Not so, if we are to believe Jeckeln and Lohse; see e.g. Gerald Fleming, Hitler and the Final Solution, London 1985, pp. 97 & 119.<br /><br />2. Putting all the blame on Himmler.-<br />Remember also that Heinz Linge heard Hitler & Himmler talking about "die Massenvernichtung der Juden"; see Ernst Nolte, Streitpunkte, Berlin 1993, p. 40 (cum ref.).- <br /><br />3. On Joachim Hamann, see now Wolfram Wette, Karl Jäger. Mörder der litauischen Juden, Frankfurt a. M. 2011, passim.-<br /><br />4. "Did Hitler order the Holocaust?" -<br />I´m not too happy about the way this question is phrased, partly because Hitler never used the word "Holocaust"; partly because "Endlösung" or "Vernichtung" - the proper terms to be used - had many different meanings (as pointed out e.g. by Eichmann).<br />Seems to me that Hitler already gave a "green light" to physical extermination of Jews in August or September 1939.- Otherwise, how to make sense e.g. of Himmler in Koblenz, March 1940?<br />CLHolocaust Denial is Chutzpahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09132857773003289978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post-11760692313848842302012-01-29T08:16:27.852-08:002012-01-29T08:16:27.852-08:00Your fellow gruelpropagandists were making excuses...Your fellow gruelpropagandists were making excuses for the lack of evidence of a Hitler's order of the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" as early as December 1942:<br /><br />The Manchester Guardian<br />Dec 8, 1942. p.4.<br /><br />""Two days' deliberations." said a Slovak paper recently, "took place at the Ministry of the Interior in Bratislava regarding the final solution of the Jewish question." ... One need not suppose that Hitler has signed an actual order for the destruction of the Jews, which is strongly reported but is at present unconfirmed."<br /><br />Facsimile of article<br />http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/bcfab7f2400e8cb02ad15b045f9cafe9.jpg<br />http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/d8d1e4267e1cc0a8748e3f63aac73ee8.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post-67099988088548182752012-01-29T06:47:51.096-08:002012-01-29T06:47:51.096-08:00This is a good piece. You might add to the point o...This is a good piece. You might add to the point on the strength of the killing squads in the east also the subordination of armed local auxiliaries to the German forces, such as the Ipatingi Burys in the Vilna area or the other Lithuanian partisans under Rollkommando Hamann in the Lithuanian countryside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post-27914715006706063362012-01-29T04:55:35.708-08:002012-01-29T04:55:35.708-08:00"Did Hitler Order the Holocaust?":
htt..."Did Hitler Order the Holocaust?": <br /><br />http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/skeptic-magazine/skeptic-9.html<br /><br />"Did Hitler Order the Holocaust?":<br /><br />http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/skeptic-magazine/skeptic-10.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post-71733520397186682762012-01-29T04:39:29.467-08:002012-01-29T04:39:29.467-08:00Reply to your first point:
This just goes to show,...Reply to your first point:<br />This just goes to show, I think, that Göring and von Rib. wanted to "defend" Hitler. Himmler, Heydrich and Goebbels are also on the record for having done likewise. This is consistent with what Himmler already March 13, 1940 stressed in Koblenz, viz. that the name of the Führer must not be brought into connection with these matters (atrocities) ... da die Person des Führers nicht mit diesen Dingen in Zusammenhang gebracht werden dürfe"; see Die Truppe...p. 106).<br />So, here we have the first "deniers".<br />The absurdities that would follow from assuming that Himmler did all this on his own behind the back of Hitler, should be too obvious to be spelled out here.--------------<br />Sorry, I do not see the point of your second point.<br />LindtnerHolocaust Denial is Chutzpahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09132857773003289978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post-41056837024376898962012-01-28T22:42:43.733-08:002012-01-28T22:42:43.733-08:00Sorry, I missed it first time. But you cite the un...Sorry, I missed it first time. But you cite the un-unearthed "mass graves" found by Father Patrick Desbois, who said:<br /><br />"With time and experience, we’ve found that the reports to Berlin were encoded under the cover of an innocent daily meteorological forecast : The number of clouds stood for the number of graves and the amount of rain indicated the number of victims."<br />http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=260<br /><br />Dr. Lindtner, what do they have on you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8315198571938853343.post-76060317379661031692012-01-28T22:29:03.536-08:002012-01-28T22:29:03.536-08:00"This I maintain, and the reason for this is ..."This I maintain, and the reason for this is that these things were kept secret from me. I might add that in my opinion not even the Führer knew the extent of what was going on. This is also explained by the fact that Himmler kept all these matters very secret. We were never given figures or any other details."<br />- Goering, IMT, 21 March 46.<br />Blue Series Vol. 9. p.611.<br />http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/03-21-46.asp<br /><br />"In 1944, Hitler spoke even more of his conflict with Jewry and he became fanatically obstinate. But never, down to 22nd April, 1945 when I last saw him in the Reich Chancellery, did he ever mention the killing of Jews. That is why even to-day I cannot believe that the Führer ordered these killings; I believe that Himmler presented him with accomplished facts."<br /><br />- Ribbentrop, Joachim von. The Ribbentrop Memoirs. Weidnfeld and Nicolson, London. 1954. p.179.<br /><br />If I can just say Dr. Lindtner, you do not make a very convincing Holocaustian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com